The Process of Individuation March 26, 2021

  • The Process of Individuation March 26, 2021

    Posted by Paul Kieniewicz on 29 March 2021 at 5:08 pm

    20:01:40 From Scientific and Medical Network : Gnosis is western nonduality

    20:01:55 From Silvia to Scientific and Medical Network (Privately) : Paul, you mentioned Stan Gooch, who was a very close friend of my late husband Ezra. What are Stan’s ideas to you? Don’t respond during this chat today, but I am intrigued that you have heard of him at all., so maybe at you would like to get in touch with me? Silvia Kogan

    20:03:41 From Jessica Corneille : Totally agree Anne! So beautifully said

    20:05:41 From Scientific and Medical Network : It still is in Oxford!

    20:15:59 From Diana Clift : Never be quiet Anne. Your wisdom is invaluable

    20:16:17 From Tanya & Armando : Hear hear!

    20:16:59 From Jessica Corneille : Charlie Morley is a good person o check out Tanya

    20:18:15 From davidgeraintjenkins to Scientific and Medical Network (Privately) : Please write the pamphlet on the shadow

    20:18:30 From Tanya & Armando : Thanks Jessica, I do know about him : )

    20:28:32 From Judy Hanmer : Anne: lovely to hear you again and look forward to your next visit to the Cambridge Jungian Circle in the autumn.

    20:29:03 From Denise Gurney : I have soooo enjoyed this tonight, thank you. Apologies for the interruption from my phone. I am filled with ideas and inspiration. Thank you

    20:31:22 From Judy Hanmer : I know that people denigrate religion these days but I still think that churches, often at the centre of communities as they are, continue to be symbols of something deeper and more spiritual.

    20:33:02 From Natalie Tobert : lots of people are engaged with spirituality, in places of education, medical schools and universities. haven’t noticed it in politics yet though.

    20:35:06 From Gerri : secular but Mori pole 46% believe in Angels https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/almost-half-us-believe-guardian-angels

    20:35:17 From Yohance Osborne : I agree strongly with you Chris on the significance of reincarnation as a phenomenon worth investigating. I think it can act as a key dimension to explain the contexts we find ourselves in today, hinting at the idea of karma here.

    20:36:38 From Sue : I think the ability to observe our thought is a key…

    20:36:45 From Tanya & Armando : Gerri, you’ve mentioned Angels before. I hope they are explored here at some point. (Tanya)

    20:37:08 From Judy Hanmer : Yes, I would like that too.

    20:37:22 From Tanya & Armando : : )

    20:37:34 From Jackie : Me too!!

    20:37:46 From m monk : extinction equals creation, death equals birth – falling apart of every thing is inevitable as the new replaces the old in creation. But we are immortal in the world of no thing

    20:37:56 From Tanya & Armando : 👼🏼

    20:38:27 From Ghislaine Young : Gita Mallasc is worth reading about when talking about angels, very powerful biography

    20:49:27 From Judy Hanmer to Scientific and Medical Network (Privately) : Paul: sorry for typos. This is almost exactly what Salome says to Jung in the Red Book.

    20:50:04 From Allan Pollock : If of interest the book I was referring to is Christ of the Celts The healing of Creation by J Philip Newell published by Wild Goose Publications – only 150 pages but packs a punch including the divine feminine

    20:50:06 From Jessica Corneille : I have to go now, but thank you so much for this great discussion! Happy Friday everyone xxx

    20:50:23 From alan : In the Tempest, does Prospero represent the deposed ‘self’, having lost his Dukedom, on the journey back home with Caliban representing his ego, returning to its proper position and function?

    20:51:19 From Leila Yazigi/Jeantelot : Thank you so much Anne and Chris. Such an interesting dialogue. Love and light to all

    20:52:03 From Ghislaine Young : Yes marvellous conversations aren’t we lucky! Thank you all

    20:55:55 From Ghislaine Young : Dreams are gifts of the spirit or that wonderful phrase the voice from the depths

    20:58:13 From Linda Carroll : Thank you so much, it was wonderful to hear Anne’s deep understanding of these dimensions of our being.

    20:58:30 From Diana Clift : IN lucid dreams I feel I have met deceased relatives. seful but probably not true

    20:58:38 From Christine Smith : Thank you Anne, and Paul. It’s been wonderful to listen to your wisdom and knowledge.

    20:59:15 From Christine Smith : And Chris, thank you too x

    20:59:21 From Diana Clift : Thank you very much Anne and Paul. I have to leave now. cheers

    20:59:32 From Tanya & Armando : Thank you so much Anne, for sharing so many pearls, and to Chris for your experienced insights 🙏🏼

    20:59:56 From claresuart : THANK YOU Anne….BRILLIANT AND FULL OF WISDOM

    21:00:21 From claresuart : THANK YOU CHRIS… SO wonderful

    21:01:51 From monika : thanks a million for your wisdom!!!

    21:01:59 From Silvia : Thank you Anne, Chris and of course Paul for chairing this evening. It was so enriching. Silvia

    21:02:05 From Linda Carroll : Thank you Anne, Paul and everyone.

    21:02:13 From alan : Thank you

    21:02:17 From Chris Bache : Thank you so much, Anne. It’s always a deep pleasure to spend time with you.

    21:03:25 From tess : Thank you so much Anne and Chris and everyone. SO valuable. x

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    Paul Kieniewicz

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    29 March 2021 at 5:09 pm

    Individuation for SMN 26/3/21

    Notes from Anne Baring

    The word individuation describes the process of psychic or soul growth. It is essentially about becoming whole – uniting the two aspects of the psyche: the conscious aspect that is known with the unconscious aspect which is unknown to begin with. Essentially, it is about reconnecting our conscious mind with our neglected soul.

    It describes the changing relationship between the ego or the part of the psyche that is focussed on survival in the world – ‘the Spirit of the Times’– and the unknown part of the psyche that Jung called the Self or greater consciousness within the collective unconscious – ‘the Spirit of the Depths.’

    It is also about becoming aware of and integrating the lost instinctive aspect of the psyche – the two-million-year-old man or woman within us. Reconnecting with Nature that we were once connected with. We have become cut off from instinct, from the unconscious, from Nature. Therefore, we are liable to become possessed and driven by the split-off instinct as many situations in the world today illustrate.

    The Self corresponds to what the Upanishads call the Atman or Spirit within the totality of the psyche or soul or to the Spirit or Holy Spirit in Christianity. There are many images of the Self which may appear in dreams. (my dream of the cosmic woman).

    This process cannot be brought about by will power or conscious effort. It happens naturally and involuntarily or can be precipitated by a powerful life experience. It may be reflected in dreams over a long period of time.

    The acorn contains the future unfolding pattern of the oak. The psyche contains the greater potential that may be unknown or unrecognized at the beginning of life but may slowly emerge and develop over the course of it. The beginning of life is about establishing the ego’s relationship with the world, growing up, the life experiences of the young adult. A strong ego is essential for this. But later on, the ego needs to create a relationship with the Self if the true creative potential of the psyche is to be realised.

    Sometimes a wound to the heartmay activate the process of individuation; sometimes an early shamanic experience or shock or an experience of severe depression or a handicap like dyslexia. The life of a creative genius like Mozart takes a different form as the talent that has to be nurtured creates the path of individuation, which often involves great suffering, as with Beethoven. Fairy Tales give many examples of how the hero or heroine has to accomplish some impossible task and is helped by an animal or a bird or an old woman living in the forest.

    The ego’s encounter with the Unconscious or greater dimension of being can begin with the experience of having reached a dead end. Nothing can help. The darkness is absolute and unremitting. Often experienced as depression, referred to in Alchemy as the Nigredo – ‘a blackness blacker than black’. Depression can sometimes be the call of the deeper aspects of the soul for recognition and relationship with the conscious ego.

    Alchemy is an ancient path of Individuation and Initiationdescending from Egypt. It describes three stages of soul-growth:

    1. The Nigredo – the encounter of the ego with the unconscious

    2. The Albedo or stage of the dawning of the light, the discovery of deeper meaning or a different path through life. Responding to the call of the Self.

    3. The Rubedo or the dawning of enlightenment

    The encounter with the Shadowor unknown aspects of the psyche – both positive and negative. Often shows in dreams as living in a house with unexplored rooms symbolising the unexplored, unconscious aspect of the psyche.

    Personal Shadow– qualities and gifts that may have been repressed through parental or educational experience. Deeply imprinted beliefs and habits of behaviour that may have crippled the unfolding of the soul and its creative life. Anger, fear, hatred, jealousy arising from life experiences that have injured the soul. Example: loss of one’s mother in childhood: rage, guilt, deep despair.

    Collective Shadowone example of the collective shadow is the inability of an extraverted culture to pay any attention to the inner world of the psyche or even to recognise its existence.

    A current example of the collective shadow is the failure of the EU to give its people early access to vaccinations, thereby increasing the number of deaths that its people will experience.

    The will to power of the primitive aspect of the shadow predominates over common sense and compassion. The situation requires the sacrifice of the will to power.

    Integrating the contra-sexual aspect of the psyche: the animus and the anima. This is part of the individuation process. A woman needs to integrate aspects of the male psyche – the power to act in the world without being controlled by a negative masculinity which derides and diminishes her feminine nature.

    Similarly, a man needs to integrate aspects of the feminine that he may have looked down on and considered inferior to his nature, yet are essential for his balance and completion.

    Jung knew that we need a radically different image of God: one that did not split nature and matter from spirit. “It was only quite late that we realized or are beginning to realize that God is Reality itself and therefore — last but not least — man.” p. 258 The Dream of the Cosmos.

    p. 427 – God has become pot-bound, stuck in the image of Him we have created.

    p. 256 – Jung’s concept of the process of individuation was to expand the field of our awareness so that we are able to relate to the complex reality of the deeper dimension of the soul. Working to create a relationship with this mysterious entity over many years is like an extended mediation which connects us not only to the life of nature but to the inner life or soul of the Cosmos. Ultimately, this is a sacred marriage of the two aspects of the psyche.

    p. 257 In Jung’s Seven Sermons to the Dead, the Gnostic teacher Basilides describes the primary ground of being as the Pleroma, the root of all, present within all yet beyond all, a nameless, boundless, indefinable and totally transcendent dimension of reality which nevertheless permeates our world in the way that sunlight permeates air.”

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