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Our descent into matter – Roger Boswara

Members’ Virtual Bar: Fridays

Our descent into matter – Roger Boswara

Posted by Paul Kieniewicz on 16 October 2021 at 10:25 am
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19:51:55 From Verena Davis : I would like a copy please Roger. 19:52:12 From Denise Gurney : I would like a copy too please 19:52:28 From Danielle D. : Yes, please I would like a copy. Very interesting. 19:52:51 From Jackie : Me too please 19:52:55 From Ken Smith : copy pls thaks 19:53:05 From Aline Hay : and me! 20:08:21 From Ghislaine Young : I agree Alison we need to be grateful for and celebrate our physical existence. And in this we are spiritual beings experiencing this 20:08:49 From Jackie Queally : I agree with Alison that we are born on Earth to co-create. Otherwise what is the divine purpose of our being incarnated on earth? 20:10:52 From Jackie Queally : No - Love is a creative force 20:11:35 From Denise Gurney : aren’t you all describing “the Fall” 20:11:35 From Ghislaine Young : Also in choosing your parenthood wouldn’t one want to find an incarnation where we could learn and express our highest self? Our living presence is a blessing 20:12:44 From Aline Hay : I understand what Roger is saying....I had invitation to state I was too frightened to go into ..but as a physical being it is always possible to work our way upwards again through the universes! 20:12:45 From Jackie Queally : Fear causes separation and we now are entering a new domain based on co-creative love, albeit tentatively at this juncture 20:15:44 From Verena Davis : "Seeing" with eyes of love Roger? 20:17:17 From Judy H : I'm sorry, I have to leave early for a meeting of the Cambridge Jungian Circle at which Ann Baring is speaking. See you all next week. 20:17:37 From Alison Wakelin : Bye Judy 20:19:23 From Jackie Queally : Yes free choice is essential on human level which are part of sentient life that is on a path of evolution whereas on divine level all is one (beyond human activity). 20:19:30 From Debra : Is there a way that you might be able to post a link to the materials that have been presented? If so, it would be greatly appreciated 20:20:10 From Jackie Queally : Tuvi beautifully put thank you 20:20:29 From Lynn Brodlie : Yes, thank you Tuvi 20:23:33 From Alison Wakelin : Who decided to create the physical universe in the first place, if everyone is "dead"? 20:26:13 From Alison Wakelin : I think this is interesting in the sense that prior to the physical universe, the angels chose to "fall", according to Judeo Christian ideas. But I don't see why it might apply to a choice made by once perfect, then "fallen", humans. 20:29:16 From Denise Gurney : Great discussion, thank you. See you all next week, I have to go right now. xx 20:29:50 From Suzanne Taylor : Thoughts I've been having: I propose that what we are “doing” here, fundamentally, really isn’t anything. We keep progressing in doingness as the creative species we are, but as to why, I think it’s an inside job, to become one with everything. Every animal is being what they are. We are being human and what that is is divine. 20:30:01 From Ghislaine Young : Exactly paul thank you 20:30:30 From Alison Wakelin : I agree Suzanne 20:31:53 From Jackie Queally : I think Steiner’s view was for his time and we actually through collective consciousness have moved a little. We have more potential now. Some of the anthroposophical members have evolved his ideas I think 20:32:11 From Ghislaine Young : I think that whole of creation is ensouled and we do live in a participatory universe all dependent on one another and co creating 20:36:54 From Ghislaine Young : I can’t believe there was no life in that fétus at that time 20:38:51 From Helen Spark : some say the soul moves in &out of the body several times during the pregnancy, sometimes only taking up 'residene' near full-term. 20:39:27 From Jackie Queally : We choose our paremts 20:39:59 From Jackie Queally : If we choose our parents it seems unlikely that someone upon dying chooses to usurp us 20:42:23 From Jackie Queally : Thank you for this explanation Abeyomi 20:46:26 From Verena Davis : It would seem that if a soul selects the parents most needed for the lessons for the individual's "life school", it is the soul that initiates the process of incarnation? 20:47:31 From Ghislaine Young : Great point Suzanne 20:49:11 From Verena Davis : Remind ourselves that what we do. how we think, feel and act, affects everything, we are all alive in the one world. 20:50:42 From Suzanne Taylor : Love to share my podcast: www.suespeakspodcast.com 20:50:44 From Silvia K : Thanks Tuvi. Consider also that Earth and the Moon were once joined and we are so influenced by the Moon. 20:51:22 From Verena Davis : True Silvia. 20:52:08 From Abayomi Aiyesimoju : Please I have to leave now 20:53:17 From davidgeraintjenkins : I would pay mothers a sum of money to stay at home with their children so that secure attachments could be developed leading to adult mental stability. This is developed in the first 5 yrs. of life. From Mary Jenkins 20:54:01 From Jackie Queally : There is value in sharing visions. But it has to be executed using imaginal faculty not our mere intellects. 20:54:09 From Jackie Queally : Otherwise it never grounds 20:56:17 From Jackie Queally : It is a pity we never discussed how to influence it to the positive as that is what I thought this was all about! 20:56:59 From Jackie Queally : As an educator I was hoping for some fresh insights. 20:57:06 From Silvia K : Perhaps read Chris Bache’s book about his experiences over twenty years with LSD between the 70’s and the 90’s. “LSD and the mind of the Universe, Diamonds from Heaven”, and his presentations to Schmed. 20:57:47 From Jackie Queally : Thank you Kathleen very astute 20:58:10 From Verena Davis : Paul, the dichotomy of separation - individual and collective. 20:59:35 From Tom Cockley : Roger, can you put your paper in the chat? 21:00:11 From Leila Yazigi/Jeantelot : Great discussion. Love and Light to all 21:00:24 From Jackie Queally : Thank you Roger bless you 21:00:51 From Lynn Brodlie : Thank you Roger 21:01:24 From Silvia K : We just dodge it here in the UK. 21:01:32 From Jackie Queally : That is a fallacy about horse medicine. It has been proven to work but is suppressed.

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16 October 2021 at 10:37 am

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Our descent into matter – Roger Boswara

Our descent into matter – Roger Boswara

Paul Kieniewicz